<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: You Can&#8217;t Take the Sky From Me: A Marxist Reading of Joss Whedon&#8217;s &#8220;Firefly&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:15:10 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Curse Your Sudden but Inevitable Betrayal! &#171; Lost Between the Letters</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Curse Your Sudden but Inevitable Betrayal! &#171; Lost Between the Letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-203</guid>
		<description>[...] turns on the poor steg he cries out &#8230; In my quick web search to find the above image I hit this interesting blog post analyzing Firefly through a Marxist lens. While the author is focusing on things other than my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] turns on the poor steg he cries out &#8230; In my quick web search to find the above image I hit this interesting blog post analyzing Firefly through a Marxist lens. While the author is focusing on things other than my [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Frercevejah</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Frercevejah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-200</guid>
		<description>Hi your website is cool
I have a new band and we just had a live gig u can see here:
http://tinyurl.com/7wmqct</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi your website is cool<br />
I have a new band and we just had a live gig u can see here:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/7wmqct" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7wmqct</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: You Can’t Take the Sky From Me, because The Leader says it&#8217;s for The Proletariat &#171; the lower casefiles</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>You Can’t Take the Sky From Me, because The Leader says it&#8217;s for The Proletariat &#171; the lower casefiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-92</guid>
		<description>[...] mrbitterness @ 8:38 pm   When I logged in, I was accosted by a blurb for a post called &#8220;You Can’t Take the Sky From Me: A Marxist Reading of Joss Whedon’s “Firefly” « The Myles Fi....&#8221; Some guy named Myles wrote it for a class, and it shows; it takes a good bit of selective [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mrbitterness @ 8:38 pm   When I logged in, I was accosted by a blurb for a post called &#8220;You Can’t Take the Sky From Me: A Marxist Reading of Joss Whedon’s “Firefly” « The Myles Fi&#8230;.&#8221; Some guy named Myles wrote it for a class, and it shows; it takes a good bit of selective [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Meshon Cantrill</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Meshon Cantrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-89</guid>
		<description>I would love to hear from you about Acadia as a suitable school for graduate studies. I found your site because I typed in two key terms from my thesis proposal (currently under construction): Beowulf and Battlestar Galactica. It&#039;s totally cool to see someone else thinking about these things.

For me the initial moment of conjunction was in season 2 (I think), an episode called &quot;Scar.&quot; There is a &quot;hall&quot; scene at the end of that episode that really reminded me of Beowulf, when Starbuck recites a litany of the dead.

And they&#039;re drinking of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to hear from you about Acadia as a suitable school for graduate studies. I found your site because I typed in two key terms from my thesis proposal (currently under construction): Beowulf and Battlestar Galactica. It&#8217;s totally cool to see someone else thinking about these things.</p>
<p>For me the initial moment of conjunction was in season 2 (I think), an episode called &#8220;Scar.&#8221; There is a &#8220;hall&#8221; scene at the end of that episode that really reminded me of Beowulf, when Starbuck recites a litany of the dead.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re drinking of course.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: One Week Later: Hey! Nielsen Reflections &#171; Cultural Learnings</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>One Week Later: Hey! Nielsen Reflections &#171; Cultural Learnings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-88</guid>
		<description>[...] be more than willing to be involved in such a system, but part of me has been writing essays on Marxism in Firefly and thinks that a more rigid class structure might defeat the purpose of this being &#8220;the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be more than willing to be involved in such a system, but part of me has been writing essays on Marxism in Firefly and thinks that a more rigid class structure might defeat the purpose of this being &#8220;the [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-86</guid>
		<description>This is incredibly unfortunate, especially because it means that I killed it. And thus feel fairly terrible, and won&#039;t link to another one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredibly unfortunate, especially because it means that I killed it. And thus feel fairly terrible, and won&#8217;t link to another one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wolfger</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-85</guid>
		<description>Video no longer available. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video no longer available. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Myles</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-84</guid>
		<description>Deborah,

I am going to edit this now to state something along the lines of &quot;television and film examples.&quot; I really hadn&#039;t intended to say anything more than that, because I think that the issue I want to raise is how the literature intended for &quot;mass consumption&quot; often removes those elements in favour of the shiny standard. Which doesn&#039;t quite get through with my horribly general statement. What I&#039;m clearly learning is that I should have Firefly fans edit all of my papers.

As for extremely unique, you&#039;ve discovered my terrible flaw: adding extra words that I don&#039;t particularly need. Baddd habit. Which will now be edited.

Thank you for reading, and for commenting. I really appreciate it.

Edit: To address some of the things over at Whedonesque that I can&#039;t due to closed registration:

Saje:

&quot;Class actually crops up a surprising amount in sci-fi given how US led the genre is (though it&#039;s fair to say the &#039;verse has one of the better thought out &quot;class&quot; systems - and short as the series was Joss also had more time than most films/books do to explore it).&quot;

What I think does make Firefly (Or &#039;the verse&#039; of course) unique is that its class system is the very definition of its environment. I would argue that some of the examples you provide (Which were edited out for space, I&#039;ll have a link to Whedonesque above shortly) are definitely examples of the representations of class, but in the end the class struggle doesn&#039;t necessarily define the core conflict of those particular works.

Also, while I am all for the distinction that science fiction need not include space and aliens to be science fiction, I think I&#039;d be hard-pressed to define Armageddon as science fiction (although I know that you weren&#039;t really intending on that being your most serious example). While the others all have elements of class structure, I don&#039;t feel like class conflict was as integral to their makeup; that being said, as I haven&#039;t seen Babylon 5 or some of the other examples provided, I cannot claim to be able to cover all these bases. And I ignored Battlestar Galactica too, but only as a time issue and to save something for my thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>I am going to edit this now to state something along the lines of &#8220;television and film examples.&#8221; I really hadn&#8217;t intended to say anything more than that, because I think that the issue I want to raise is how the literature intended for &#8220;mass consumption&#8221; often removes those elements in favour of the shiny standard. Which doesn&#8217;t quite get through with my horribly general statement. What I&#8217;m clearly learning is that I should have Firefly fans edit all of my papers.</p>
<p>As for extremely unique, you&#8217;ve discovered my terrible flaw: adding extra words that I don&#8217;t particularly need. Baddd habit. Which will now be edited.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading, and for commenting. I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Edit: To address some of the things over at Whedonesque that I can&#8217;t due to closed registration:</p>
<p>Saje:</p>
<p>&#8220;Class actually crops up a surprising amount in sci-fi given how US led the genre is (though it&#8217;s fair to say the &#8216;verse has one of the better thought out &#8220;class&#8221; systems &#8211; and short as the series was Joss also had more time than most films/books do to explore it).&#8221;</p>
<p>What I think does make Firefly (Or &#8216;the verse&#8217; of course) unique is that its class system is the very definition of its environment. I would argue that some of the examples you provide (Which were edited out for space, I&#8217;ll have a link to Whedonesque above shortly) are definitely examples of the representations of class, but in the end the class struggle doesn&#8217;t necessarily define the core conflict of those particular works.</p>
<p>Also, while I am all for the distinction that science fiction need not include space and aliens to be science fiction, I think I&#8217;d be hard-pressed to define Armageddon as science fiction (although I know that you weren&#8217;t really intending on that being your most serious example). While the others all have elements of class structure, I don&#8217;t feel like class conflict was as integral to their makeup; that being said, as I haven&#8217;t seen Babylon 5 or some of the other examples provided, I cannot claim to be able to cover all these bases. And I ignored Battlestar Galactica too, but only as a time issue and to save something for my thesis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Deborah Frankel</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-83</guid>
		<description>I linked to this from Whedonesque and enjoyed it. The suffering caused by class inequality is clearly a major concern of Whedon&#039;s in both the series and the movie. Agree with you about Inara and Jayne.

&quot;The realm of science fiction is a world in which idealist systems of governance and society have been the relative norm.&quot;  Not in the literature. In The Space Merchants, the US government is a puppet and real power lies with the advertising industry, which wants to turn everyone into morons so it can sell more products. Authors as different as Heinlein, LeGuin and K. S. Robinson have depicted revolts of colonized worlds against oppressive governments. H. G. Wells, a Socialist, imagined a future of class division so extreme that the human race becomes two species. 1984 and Brave New World are dystopias about totalitarian governments. 

A nitpick: &quot;extremely unique&quot;? As an honours English student, I&#039;m sure you know that there are no degrees of uniqueness. A thing is unique or it is not.

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I linked to this from Whedonesque and enjoyed it. The suffering caused by class inequality is clearly a major concern of Whedon&#8217;s in both the series and the movie. Agree with you about Inara and Jayne.</p>
<p>&#8220;The realm of science fiction is a world in which idealist systems of governance and society have been the relative norm.&#8221;  Not in the literature. In The Space Merchants, the US government is a puppet and real power lies with the advertising industry, which wants to turn everyone into morons so it can sell more products. Authors as different as Heinlein, LeGuin and K. S. Robinson have depicted revolts of colonized worlds against oppressive governments. H. G. Wells, a Socialist, imagined a future of class division so extreme that the human race becomes two species. 1984 and Brave New World are dystopias about totalitarian governments. </p>
<p>A nitpick: &#8220;extremely unique&#8221;? As an honours English student, I&#8217;m sure you know that there are no degrees of uniqueness. A thing is unique or it is not.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tsera</title>
		<link>http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>tsera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://mylesfiles.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/you-cant-take-the-sky-from-me-a-marxist-reading-of-joss-whedons-firefly/#comment-82</guid>
		<description>Thank you for the fascinating read.

Kudos to you, fellow Browncoat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the fascinating read.</p>
<p>Kudos to you, fellow Browncoat!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
